Comments on: I Kissed Courtship Goodbye http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/ Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:46:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Natalie http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-5159 Natalie Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:07:38 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-5159 "But the vast majority of what is a mess in my life is my attempts at trying to pick up the pieces and clean up the disaster that Biblical principles left behind." That is the quote of the century and explains my life perfectly! Thank you SO much for this post! I just ran across your blog today and your life is almost identical to mine. I didn't come from the quiverfull movement as my parents were more IFBish camp and that's how I was raised. But, I went to a Christian college and that's how I met my ex-husband and we played by all the rules and still ended up divorced. I, too, am picking up the pieces from realizing that what I was promised didn't happen. The funny thing is.... no, the most hilarious thing is, I'm in a relationship of 2 years with a man who had the same background and failed marriage as you and I did for the same reasons. That's what brought us together, and our relationship doesn't follow anyone's rules but our own and it's the happiest and healthiest relationship I've ever been in. I wonder all the time if that wasn't part of the master plan. Anyway, thanks for the blog!!! “But the vast majority of what is a mess in my life is my attempts at trying to pick up the pieces and clean up the disaster that Biblical principles left behind.”

That is the quote of the century and explains my life perfectly!

Thank you SO much for this post! I just ran across your blog today and your life is almost identical to mine. I didn’t come from the quiverfull movement as my parents were more IFBish camp and that’s how I was raised. But, I went to a Christian college and that’s how I met my ex-husband and we played by all the rules and still ended up divorced. I, too, am picking up the pieces from realizing that what I was promised didn’t happen. The funny thing is…. no, the most hilarious thing is, I’m in a relationship of 2 years with a man who had the same background and failed marriage as you and I did for the same reasons. That’s what brought us together, and our relationship doesn’t follow anyone’s rules but our own and it’s the happiest and healthiest relationship I’ve ever been in.

I wonder all the time if that wasn’t part of the master plan.

Anyway, thanks for the blog!!!

]]> By: Laura http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-2584 Laura Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:57:14 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-2584 Anna, I JUST finished it two weeks ago. I don't know how it escaped my radar for so long! I loved it! I believe you are correct, although I don't think most QF would see it that way. Outnumbering the competition, yes, maybe, racism, no. I think you are right, though. Maybe not so much racism as ethnocentrism, as they are more interested in plowing down the competition regardless of race. However, racism and fundamentalism often go hand in hand, just for different reasons. Though what, I'm not entirely sure of. Thoughts? Anna, I JUST finished it two weeks ago. I don’t know how it escaped my radar for so long! I loved it!

I believe you are correct, although I don’t think most QF would see it that way. Outnumbering the competition, yes, maybe, racism, no. I think you are right, though. Maybe not so much racism as ethnocentrism, as they are more interested in plowing down the competition regardless of race. However, racism and fundamentalism often go hand in hand, just for different reasons. Though what, I’m not entirely sure of. Thoughts?

]]> By: Anna http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-2581 Anna Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:51:08 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-2581 Very interesting blog. Thanks for the good reading material! Have you ever read The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Attwood? I assume you have but if you haven't you should pick it up. It's kind of an enforced Quiverfull society. Very scary stuff and it's scary because I think, given the right political climate, it could happen here...anywhere. To me, the Quiverfull movement is scary and obscene. I'm sure it is not nearly as nefarious as I have made it out in my head but the whole "creating Christian warriors" thing is frightening. It has a racist edge to it too, at least from what I've read about it (again, this view could be slanted or biased on my part) but I have read and heard that some of the people within the movement are committed to producing Christian children for the sake of fighting some holy war and outnumbering the competitive religions of the world. To me that is flat out racism. Very scary indeed! Am I wrong? Can you convince me otherwise? Very interesting blog. Thanks for the good reading material! Have you ever read The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Attwood? I assume you have but if you haven’t you should pick it up. It’s kind of an enforced Quiverfull society. Very scary stuff and it’s scary because I think, given the right political climate, it could happen here…anywhere. To me, the Quiverfull movement is scary and obscene. I’m sure it is not nearly as nefarious as I have made it out in my head but the whole “creating Christian warriors” thing is frightening. It has a racist edge to it too, at least from what I’ve read about it (again, this view could be slanted or biased on my part) but I have read and heard that some of the people within the movement are committed to producing Christian children for the sake of fighting some holy war and outnumbering the competitive religions of the world. To me that is flat out racism. Very scary indeed! Am I wrong? Can you convince me otherwise?

]]> By: loan http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-2090 loan Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:13:08 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-2090 Good Day!!! redheadedskeptic.com is one of the most excellent resourceful websites of its kind. I enjoy reading it every day. I will be back. Good Day!!! redheadedskeptic.com is one of the most excellent resourceful websites of its kind. I enjoy reading it every day. I will be back.

]]> By: lauradee24 http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-1080 lauradee24 Sat, 30 May 2009 18:30:16 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-1080 Yup, already on my Blogroll. Very interesting stuff. Yup, already on my Blogroll. Very interesting stuff.

]]> By: Tepes http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-1079 Tepes Sat, 30 May 2009 17:54:50 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-1079 If you're interested in the Quiverfull stuff, I recommend reading the No Longer Quivering blog at http://2spb.blogspot.com/ . It's written by two ladies who are making their way out of the Quiverfull lifestyle after spending many years in it. If you’re interested in the Quiverfull stuff, I recommend reading the No Longer Quivering blog at http://2spb.blogspot.com/ . It’s written by two ladies who are making their way out of the Quiverfull lifestyle after spending many years in it.

]]> By: Alice http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-1078 Alice Wed, 27 May 2009 21:01:01 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-1078 I waited until I got married, mostly because I never had the urge (yeah, really). I wish it had been different. My husband and I's incompatibility in that area would have been really useful information to have. All knowledge is worth having, especially when it's knowledge about a person you're about to commit the rest of your life to. I waited until I got married, mostly because I never had the urge (yeah, really). I wish it had been different. My husband and I’s incompatibility in that area would have been really useful information to have. All knowledge is worth having, especially when it’s knowledge about a person you’re about to commit the rest of your life to.

]]> By: Steve240 http://www.redheadedskeptic.com/2009/05/23/i-kissed-courtship-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-1077 Steve240 Sat, 23 May 2009 23:10:17 +0000 http://redheadedskeptic.com/?p=1761#comment-1077 Nice blog entry. You might be interested in my blog entry where I critique Josh Harris’s book: http://www.ikdg.wordpress.com “I Kissed Dating Goodbye: Wisdom or Foolishness?” I believe the book has both. Unfortunately Josh Harris doesn’t share the problems his approach has caused over the years including at the church where he is now Sr. Pastor. Trying to have a “one size fits all” approach despite differences in ages etc. can cause problems. What might be appropriate for teenagers isn’t appropriate for those singles in their 20’s and older. Nice blog entry.

You might be interested in my blog entry where I critique Josh Harris’s book:

http://www.ikdg.wordpress.com
“I Kissed Dating Goodbye: Wisdom or Foolishness?”

I believe the book has both. Unfortunately Josh Harris doesn’t share the problems his approach has caused over the years including at the church where he is now Sr. Pastor.
Trying to have a “one size fits all” approach despite differences in ages etc. can cause problems. What might be appropriate for teenagers isn’t appropriate for those singles in their 20’s and older.

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